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Thursday, 12 February 2009

  • Preaching...

    The following is an article by D.A. Carson: I thought this was interesting particularly part IV. There does seem to be a focus on speaking well and delivery of sermons even at the expense of faithfulness to the word. However, we are in a society that demands looking good while the message is delivered and if one is faithful to the word but has some quirks or distracting habits and is faithful to the word he is not viewed as favorably as another who speaks well but is less faithful.

     

    Countless volumes have been written on this subject, of course. Here I shall restrict myself to five observations.

    First, preaching is more than the oral communication of information, no matter how biblical and divine that information may be. Rather, we should think in terms of what might be called "re-revelation." Across the centuries, God disclosed himself--he revealed himself--in great events (e.g., the burning bush, the exodus, the resurrection of Jesus); he disclosed himself supremely in the person of his Son. But very commonly he revealed himself by his words. Perennially we read, "The word of the Lord came to such-and-such a prophet." So when that Word is re-announced, there is a sense in which God, who revealed himself by that Word in the past, is re-revealing himself by that same Word once again. Preachers must bear this in mind. Their aim is more than to explain the Bible, however important that aim is. They want the proclamation of God's Word to be a revelatory event, a moment when God discloses himself afresh, a time when the people of God know that they have met with the living God. They know full well that for the Scriptures to have this revelatory impact the Spirit of God must apply that Word deeply to the human heart, so that preaching must never be seen as a mere subset of public oratory. Both the content (the Bible is God's Word) and the transformative empowering (the Spirit himself) transcend any merely mechanical view of preaching.

    Second, to remain true to this basic understanding of what preaching is, the preacher must be committed to the primacy of expository preaching. We must take pains to debunk what many people think "exposition" and "expository" mean. They associate exposition with a style that takes not more than half a verse per sermon and casts around widely for every conceivable association, biblical and pastoral. Certainly that is one form of exposition, but that form is not the essence of the matter. Exposition is simply the unpacking of what is there. In a narrative text (e.g., 2 Samuel) or major epic (e.g., Job), fine exposition may focus on several chapters at once. If a sermon takes two or three short passages from disparate parts of the Bible and explains each of them carefully and faithfully within its own context, it remains an expository sermon, for it is unpacking what the biblical text or texts actually say. If we expect God to re-reveal himself by his own words, then our expositions must reflect as faithfully as possible what God actually said then the words were given to us in Scripture.

    Third, there is an heraldic element in preaching. The Bible sometimes envisages other forms of oral communication, of course: we may be invited to reason together with the Lord (Is. 1:18), for instance, or enter into a dialogical confrontation with him (e.g., Mal. 1:2-8; Rom. 6:1-2). Yet in the oft-repeated "Thus says the Lord" of the Old Testament is an unavoidable heraldic element--an announcement, a sovereign disclosure, a nonnegotiable declaration. As ambassadors, we are tasked with making known the stance and intentions of our Sovereign; we do not have the authority to tamper with his position.

    Fourth, preaching is never an end in itself. It is not an art form to be admired, still less mere high-flown rhetoric that so captures the audience's imagination that the content is of little importance. This is not to deny that artistry and rhetoric may be traced in sermons; rather, it is to keep ultimate ends in constant view. The faithful preacher will care little what folk think of his oratorical skills; he will care a great deal about whether he has faithfully represented the Master and his message. This includes a passionate commitment to make the Word wound and heal, sing and sting.

    And that means, fifth, that we must study our own people, the culture of the people to whom we minister. Inevitably there are commonalities from culture to culture, but there are countless distinctives as well. To communicate effectively we must address the people of the time and place where God has placed us. This is a perennially urgent need in the thoughtful and faithful preacher....

     

Monday, 21 July 2008

  • The warning of Dt. 7

    I believe that the common practice of being unequally yoked is largely responsible for the condition of the church at large today. The sons and daughters of the church have gone whoring after the gods of those whom they have married. Those gods are secular humanism and political-correctness among so many others. This is the start of an idea for a sermon in the next PCA church where I will preach. (hopefully soon). I believe that this is the first step in seeking both the peace and the prosperity of the church. We must protect her from those outside who will continue to come in and defile the sanctity of the church.

Thursday, 26 June 2008

  • Well when you send your resume out to several hundred churches I suppose you will get a lot of rejection letters. I have! Here is one of my favorites: ( the names have been left out to protect the guilty, stupid or clueless)

    Dear Stephen,

     Thank you for expressing interes in the Pastor of Pastoral Care and Assimilation position (I definitely did not express interest in any position by this name.) at ----- Church. The information you provided was very useful in helping us to discern the direction to which our Lord is calling us.

     

    Unfortunately, at this time we feel led to move in a different direction for this position. May God Bless your ministry wherever He leads you. (As long as it is far from here.)

     

    Okay the bit in parentheses is mine but how would one reply to such a thing. Golly Gee I am pleased that my resume helped you decide that you need someone with exactly the opposite qualities and qualifications that you found in my resume. By the way are you guys on the Star Ship Enterprise....Pastor of Assimilation???!!! I have enclosed a special something for you to assimilate.

     

    Okay so maybe I am becoming a little...but only a little cynical...the more responses I get from PCA churches the more I wonder...one guy sent me an e-mail saying I sounded too reformed for his church...I explained that I would not be considered a TR guy but that I am very proud of our reformed heritage. Another guy told me the use of terms such as orthodoxy and orthopraxy made me sound too smart for his congregation. ??? Sorry Bubba!!  Does it help any that I am one of the dumbest guys to ever graduate from seminary?  

     

       

Tuesday, 10 June 2008

  • Isaiah 61

    The Spirit of the Lord God is upon Me,

    Because the Lord has annointed Me

    To preach good things to the poor;

    He has sent me to heal the brokenhearted,

    To proclaim liberty to the captives,

    And the opening of the prison to those who are bound;

    Isaiah 61: 1-2a

    I am called to preach the word of God, this call has been affirmed by the elders of the church and has cost my family a great deal financially and rewarded us a great deal spiritually. Please pray that I will receive a call from a local church soon. My friend has designed a program that will send my resume to about 1,000 churches throughout the country. Please pray that through this or the various resume's that I send out each week something will lead to a paying position. Many leads have come to a dead end in the last few weeks but there are many others and I know that God will choose where and when but we need something soon.

     

Tuesday, 13 May 2008

  • CAP&GOWN

    I got my cap & gown for graduation today. It has been twenty-five years since I have participated in a graduation ceremony. That one was High School and I was a whole lot closer to not making it to that graduation, Greek and Hebrew not withstanding. I seem to remember more distractions in my life during HS. Those distractions shall remain nameless. The emotions that I have are very mixed. I expected at this time I would be ecstatic having completed a BA and Masters in seven years however there is always a new beginning when something is complete and we have yet to find out what or more particularly where that new beginning will be. I am excited about graduation still but it is definitely different than what I would have expected. I am frustrated that there is not more help forthcoming from the seminary with regard to job placement. There are many opportunities for tent-making Pastors within the CREC but very few paying positions. I have begun to send my resume to Classical Christian schools in areas where I know people who are interested in planting a church.

            Well, I suppose this is enough rambling for now. Please pray that I can pick up some temporary work here until we find out where we are going. I have an interview with Borders bookstore on Thursday.

     

     

Thursday, 01 May 2008

  • Mario Cuomo is a moron!

    Okay this is a long article but you all have the attention span for it. See how many logical inconsistencies are contained within this one masterpiece from on of our great American minds. My personal favorite is the one where he compares abortion and the death penalty, abortion being okay but the death penalty apparrently an evil worth fighting. Death to the defenseless but life for the guilty, surely these are biblical principles.   Okay read it and give a tally of your # of logical errors, it may be equal to the number of sentences.

    Religious Belief and Public Morality: A Catholic Governor’s Perspective

    Governor Mario Cuomo
    Remarks delivered at the University of Notre Dame
    September 13, 1984

    I would like to begin by drawing your attention to the title of this lecture: "Religious Belief and Public Morality: A Catholic Governor's Perspective." I was not invited to speak on "church and state" generally. Certainly not "Mondale vs. Reagan." The subject assigned is difficult enough. I will try not to do more than I've been asked.

    It's not easy to stay contained. Certainly, although everybody talks about a wall of separation between church and state, I've seen religious leaders scale that wall with all the dexterity of Olympic athletes. In fact, I've seen so many candidates in churches and synagogues that I think we should change Election Day from Tuesdays to Saturdays and Sundays.

    I am honored by this invitation, but the record shows that I am not the first Governor of New York to appear at an event involving Notre Dame. One of my great predecessors, Al Smith, went to the Army-Notre Dame football game each time it was played in New York.

    His fellow Catholics expected Smith to sit with Notre Dame; protocol required him to sit with Army because it was the home team. Protocol prevailed. But not without Smith noting the dual demands on his affections. "I'll take my seat with Army," he said, "but I commend my soul to Notre Dame!"

    Today I'm happy to have no such problem. Both my seat and my soul are with Notre Dame. And as long as Father McBrien doesn't invite me back to sit with him at the Notre Dame-St. John's basketball game, I'm confident my loyalties will remain undivided.

    In a sense, it's a question of loyalty that Father McBrien has asked me here today to discuss. Specifically, must politics and religion in America divide our loyalties? Does the "separation between church and state" imply separation between religion and politics? Between morality and government? Are these different propositions? Even more specifically, what is the relationship of my Catholicism to my politics? Where does the one end and other begin? Or are the two divided at all? And if they're not, should they be?

    Hard questions.

    No wonder most of us in public life – at least until recently – preferred to stay away from them, heeding the biblical advice that if "hounded and pursued in one city," we should flee to another.

    Now, however, I think that it is too late to flee. The questions are all around us, and answers are coming from every quarter. Some of them have been simplistic, most of them fragmentary, and a few, spoken with a purely political intent, demagogic.

    There has been confusion and compounding of confusion, a blurring of the issue, entangling it in personalities and election strategies, instead of clarifying it for Catholics, as well as others.

    Today I would like to try to help correct that.

    I can offer you no final truths, complete and unchallengeable. But it's possible this one effort will provoke other efforts – both in support and contradiction of my position – that will help all of us understand our differences and perhaps even discover some basic agreement.

    In the end, I'm convinced we will all benefit if suspicion is replaced by discussion, innuendo by dialogue; if the emphasis in our debate turns from a search for talismanic criteria and neat but simplistic answers to an honest – more intelligent – attempt at describing the role religion has in our public affairs, and the limits placed on that role.

    And if we do it right – if we're not afraid of the truth even when the truth is complex – this debate, by clarification, can bring relief to untold numbers of confused – even anguished – Catholics, as well as to many others who want only to make our already great democracy even stronger than it is.

    I believe the recent discussion in my own state has already produced some clearer definition. In early summer, newspaper accounts had created the impression in some quarters that official church spokespeople would ask Catholics to vote for or against specific candidates on the basis of their political position on the abortion issue. I was one of those given that impression. Thanks to the dialogue that ensued over the summer – only partially reported by the media – we learned that the impression was not accurate.

    Confusion has presented an opportunity for clarification, and we seized it. Now all of us are saying one thing – in chorus – reiterating the statement of the National Conference of Catholic Bishops that they will not "take positions for or against political candidates" and that their stand on specific issues should not be perceived "as an expression of political partisanship."

    Of course the bishops will teach – they must – more and more vigorously and more and more extensively. But they have said they will not use the power of their position, and the great respect it receives from all Catholics, to give an imprimatur to individual politicians or parties.

    Not that they couldn't if they wished to – some religious leaders do; some are doing it at this very moment.

    Not that it would be a sin if they did – God doesn't insist on political neutrality. But because it is the judgment of the bishops, and most of us Catholic lay people, that it is not wise for prelates and politicians to be tied too closely together.

    I think that getting this consensus was an extraordinarily useful achievement.

    Now, with some trepidation and after much prayer, I take up your gracious invitation to continue the dialogue in the hope that it will lead to still further clarification.

    # # #

    Let me begin this part of the effort by underscoring the obvious. I do not speak as a theologian; I do not have that competence. I do not speak as a philosopher; to suggest that I would, would be to set a new record for false pride. I don't presume to speak as a "good" person except in the ontological sense of that word. My principal credential is that I serve in a position that forces me to wrestle with the problems you've come here to study and debate.

    I am by training a lawyer and by practice a politician. Both professions make me suspect in many quarters, including among some of my own co-religionists. Maybe there's no better illustration of the public perception of how politicians unite their faith and their profession than the story they tell in New York about "Fishhooks" McCarthy, a famous Democratic leader on the lower East Side, and right-hand man to Al Smith.

    "Fishhooks" the story goes, was devout. So devout that every morning on his way to Tammany Hall to do his political work, he stopped into St. James Church on Oliver Street in downtown Manhattan, fell on his knees, and whispered the same simple prayer: "Oh, Lord, give me health and strength. We'll steal the rest."

    # # #

    "Fishhooks," notwithstanding, I speak here as a politician. And also as a Catholic, a lay person baptized and raised in the pre-Vatican II Church, educated in Catholic schools, attached to the Church first by birth, then by choice, now by love. An old-fashioned Catholic who sins, regrets, struggles, worries, get confused and most of the time feels better after confession.

    The Catholic Church is my spiritual home. My heart is there, and my hope.

    There is, of course, more to being a Catholic than a sense of spiritual and emotional resonance. Catholicism is a religion of the head as well as the heart, and to be a Catholic is to say "I believe" to the essential core of dogmas that distinguishes our faith.

    The acceptance of this faith requires a lifelong struggle to understand it more fully and to live it more truly, to translate truth into experience, to practice as well as to believe.

    That's not easy: applying religious belief to everyday life often presents difficult challenges.

    It's always been that way. It certainly is today. The America of the late twentieth century is a consumer society, filled with endless distractions, where faith is more often dismissed than challenged, where the ethic and other loyalties that once fastened us to our religion seem to be weakening.

    In addition to all the weaknesses, dilemmas, and temptations that impede every pilgrim's progress, the Catholic who holds political office in a pluralistic democracy – who is elected to serve Jews and Muslims, atheists and Protestants, as well as Catholics – bears special responsibility. He or she undertakes to help create conditions under which all can live with a maximum of dignity and with a reasonable degree of freedom; where everyone who chooses may hold beliefs different from specifically Catholic ones – sometimes contradictory to them; where the laws protect people's right to divorce, to use birth control, and even to choose abortion.

    In fact, Catholic public officials take an oath to preserve the Constitution that guarantees this freedom. And they do so gladly. Not because they love what others do with their freedom, but because they realize that in guaranteeing freedom for all, they guarantee our right to be Catholics: our right to pray, to use the sacraments, to refuse birth control devices, to reject abortion, not to divorce and remarry if we believe it to be wrong.

    The Catholic public official lives the political truth most Catholics through most of American history have accepted and insisted on: the truth that to assure our freedom we must allow others the same freedom, even if occasionally it produces conduct by them which we would hold to be sinful.

    I protect my right to be a Catholic by preserving your right to believe as a Jew, a Protestant, or non-believer, or as anything else you choose.

    We know that the price of seeking to force our beliefs on others is that they might some day force theirs on us.

    This freedom is the fundamental strength of our unique experiment in government. In the complex interplay of forces and considerations that go into the making of our laws and policies, its preservation must be a pervasive and dominant concern.

    But insistence on freedom is easier to accept as a general proposition than in its applications to specific situations. There are other valid general principles firmly embedded in our Constitution, which, operating at the same time, create interesting and occasionally troubling problems. Thus, the same amendment of the Constitution that forbids the establishment of a State Church affirms my legal right to argue that my religious belief would serve well as an article of our universal public morality. I may use the prescribed processes of government – the legislative and executive and judicial processes – to convince my fellow citizens – Jews and Protestants and Buddhists and non-believers – that what I propose is as beneficial for them as I believe it is for me; that it is not just parochial or narrowly sectarian but fulfills a human desire for order, peace, justice, kindness, love, any of the values most of us agree are desirable even apart from their specific religious base or context.

    I am free to argue for a governmental policy for a nuclear freeze not just to avoid sin but because I think my democracy should regard it as a desirable goal.

    I can, if I wish, argue that the State should not fund the use of contraceptive devices not because the Pope demands it but because I think that the whole community – for the good of the whole community – should not sever sex from an openness to the creation of life.

    And surely, I can, if so inclined, demand some kind of law against abortion not because my Bishops say it is wrong but because I think that the whole community, regardless of its religious beliefs, should agree on the importance of protecting life – including life in the womb, which is at the very least potentially human and should not be extinguished casually.

    No law prevents us from advocating any of these things: I am free to do so.

    So are the Bishops. And so is Reverend Falwell.

    In fact, the Constitution guarantees my right to try. And theirs. And his.

    But should I? Is it helpful? Is it essential to human dignity? Does it promote harmony and understanding? Or does it divide us so fundamentally that it threatens our ability to function as a pluralistic community?

    When should I argue to make my religious value your morality? My rule of conduct your limitation?

    What are the rules and policies that should influence the exercise of this right to argue and promote?

    I believe I have a salvific mission as a Catholic. Does that mean I am in conscience required to do everything I can as Governor to translate all my religious values into the laws and regulations of the State of New York or the United States? Or be branded a hypocrite if I don't?

    As a Catholic, I respect the teaching authority of the bishops.

    But must I agree with everything in the bishops' pastoral letter on peace and fight to include it in party platforms?

    And will I have to do the same for the forthcoming pastoral on economics even if I am an unrepentant supply sider?

    Must I, having heard the Pope renew the Church's ban on birth control devices, veto the funding of contraceptive programs for non-Catholics or dissenting Catholics in my State? I accept the Church's teaching on abortion. Must I insist you do? By law? By denying you Medicaid funding? By a constitutional amendment? If so, which one? Would that be the best way to avoid abortions or to prevent them?

    These are only some of the questions for Catholics. People with other religious beliefs face similar problems.

    # # #

    Let me try some answers.

    Almost all Americans accept some religious values as a part of our public life. We are a religious people, many of us descended from ancestors who came here expressly to live their religious faith free from coercion or repression. But we are also a people of many religions, with no established church, who hold different beliefs on many matters.

    Our public morality, then – the moral standards we maintain for everyone, not just the ones we insist on in our private lives – depends on a consensus view of right and wrong. The values derived from religious belief will not – and should not – be accepted as part of the public morality unless they are shared by the pluralistic community at large, by consensus.

    That those values happen to be religious values does not deny them acceptability as a part of this consensus. But it does not require their acceptability, either.

    The agnostics who joined the civil rights struggle were not deterred because that crusade's values had been nurtured and sustained in black Christian churches. Those on the political left are not perturbed today by the religious basis of the clergy and lay people who join them in the protect against the arms race and hunger and exploitation.

    The arguments start when religious values are used to support positions which would impose on other people restrictions they find unacceptable. Some people do object to Catholic demands for an end to abortion, seeing it as a violation of the separation of church and state. And some others, while they have no compunction about invoking the authority of the Catholic bishops in regard to birth control and abortion, might reject out of hand their teaching on war and peace and social policy.

    Ultimately, therefore, the question "whether or not we admit religious values into our public affairs" is too broad to yield a single answer. "Yes," we create our public morality through consensus and in this country that consensus reflects to some extent religious values of a great majority of Americans. But "no," all religiously based values don't have an a priori place in our public morality. The community must decide if what is being proposed would be better left to private discretion than public policy; whether it restricts freedom, and if so to what end, to whose benefit; whether it will produce a good or bad result; whether overall it will help the community or merely divide it.

    The right answers to these questions can be elusive. Some of the wrong answers, on the other hand, are quite clear. For example, there are those who say there is a simple answer to all these questions; they say that by history and practice of our people we were intended to be – and should be – a Christian country in law.

    But where would that leave the non-believers? And whose Christianity would be law, yours or mine?

    This "Christian nation" argument should concern – even frighten – two groups: non-Christians and thinking Christians.

    I believe it does.

    I think it's already apparent that a good part of this Nation understands – if only instinctively – that anything which seems to suggest that God favors a political party or the establishment of a state church, is wrong and dangerous.

    Way down deep the American people are afraid of an entangling relationship between formal religions – or whole bodies of religious belief – and government. Apart from constitutional law and religious doctrine, there is a sense that tells us it's wrong to presume to speak for God or to claim God's sanction of our particular legislation and His rejection of all other positions. Most of us are offended when we see religion being trivialized by its appearance in political throw-away pamphlets.

    The American people need no course in philosophy or political science or church history to know that God should not be made into a celestial party chairman.

    To most of us, the manipulative invoking of religion to advance a politician or a party is frightening and divisive. The American people will tolerate religious leaders taking positions for or against candidates, although I think the Catholic bishops are right in avoiding that position. But the American people are leery about large religious organizations, powerful churches or synagogue groups engaging in such activities – again, not as a matter of law or doctrine, but because our innate wisdom and democratic instinct teaches us these things are dangerous.

    # # #

    Today there are a number of issues involving life and death that raise questions of public morality. They are also questions of concerns to most religions. Pick up a newspaper and you are almost certain to find a bitter controversy over any one of them: Baby Jane Doe, the right to die, artificial insemination, embryos in vitro, abortion, birth control…not to mention nuclear war and the shadow it throws across all existence.

    Some of these issues touch the most intimate recesses of our lives, our roles as someone's mother or child or husband; some affect women in a unique way. But they are also public questions, for all of us.

    Put aside what God expects – assume if you like there is no God – then the greatest thing still left to us is life. Even a radically secular world must struggle with the questions of when life begins, under what circumstances it can be ended, when it must be protected, by what authority; it too must decide what protection to extend to the helpless and the dying, to the aged and the unborn, to life in all its phases.

    As a Catholic, I have accepted certain answers as the right ones for myself and my family, and because I have, they have influenced me in special ways, as Matilda's husband, as a father of five children, as a son who stood next to his own father's death bed trying to decide if the tubes and needles no longer served a purpose.

    As a Governor, however, I am involved in defining policies that determine other people's rights in these same areas of life and death. Abortion is one of these issues, and while it is one issue among many, it is one of the most controversial and affects me in a special way as a Catholic public official.

    So let me spend some time considering it.

    I should start, I believe, by noting that the Catholic Church's actions with respect to the interplay of religious values and public policy make clear that there is no inflexible moral principle which determines what our political conduct should be. For example, on divorce and birth control, without changing its moral teaching, the Church abides the civil law as it now stands, thereby accepting – without making much of a point of it – that in our pluralistic society we are not required to insist that all our religious values be the law of the land.

    Abortion is treated differently.

    Of course there are differences both in degree and quality between abortion and some of the other religious positions the Church takes: abortion is a "matter of life and death," and degree counts. But the differences in approach reveal a truth, I think, that is not well enough perceived by Catholics and therefore still further complicates the process for us. That is, while we always owe our bishops' words respectful attention and careful consideration, the question whether to engage the political system in a struggle to have it adopt certain articles of our belief as part of public morality is not a matter of doctrine: it is a matter of prudential political judgment.

    Recently, Michael Novak put it succinctly: "Religious judgment and political judgment are both needed," he wrote. "But they are not identical."

    My church and my conscience require me to believe certain things about divorce, birth control and abortion. My church does not order me – under pain of sin or expulsion – to pursue my salvific mission according to a precisely defined political plan.

    As a Catholic I accept the church's teaching authority. While in the past some Catholic theologians may appear to have disagreed on the morality of some abortions (it wasn't, I think, until 1869 that excommunication was attached to all abortions without distinction), and while some theologians still do, I accept the bishops' position that abortion is to be avoided.

    As Catholics, my wife and I were enjoined never to use abortion to destroy the life we created, and we never have. We thought Church doctrine was clear on this, and – more than that – both of us felt it in full agreement with what our hearts and our consciences told us. For me, life or fetal life in the womb should be protected, even if five of nine Justices of the Supreme Court and my neighbor disagree with me. A fetus is different from an appendix or a set of tonsils. At the very least, even if the argument is made by some scientists or some theologians that in the early stages of fetal development we can't discern human life, the full potential of human life is indisputably there. That – to my less subtle mind – by itself should demand respect, caution, indeed…reverence.

    But not everyone in our society agrees with me and Matilda.

    And those who don't – those who endorse legalized abortions – aren't a ruthless, callous alliance of anti-Christians determined to overthrow our moral standards. In many cases, the proponents of legal abortion are the very people who have worked with Catholics to realize the goals of social justice set out in papal encyclicals: the American Lutheran Church, the Central Conference of American Rabbis, the Presbyterian Church in the United States, B'nai B'rith Women, the Women of the Episcopal Church. These are just a few of the religious organizations that don't share the Church's position on abortion.

    Certainly, we should not be forced to mold Catholic morality to conform to disagreement by non-Catholics however sincere or severe their disagreement. Our bishops should be teachers not pollsters. They should not change what we Catholics believe in order to ease our consciences or please our friends or protect the Church from criticism.

    But if the breadth, intensity and sincerity of opposition to church teaching shouldn't be allowed to shape our Catholic morality, it can't help but determine our ability – our realistic, political ability – to translate our Catholic morality into civil law, a law not for the believers who don't need it but for the disbelievers who reject it.

    And it is here, in our attempt to find a political answer to abortion – an answer beyond our private observance of Catholic morality – that we encounter controversy within and without the Church over how and in what degree to press the case that our morality should be everybody else's, and to what effect.

    I repeat, there is no Church teaching that mandates the best political course for making our belief everyone's rule, for spreading this part of our Catholicism. There is neither an encyclical nor a catechism that spells out a political strategy for achieving legislative goals.

    And so the Catholic trying to make moral and prudent judgments in the political realm must discern which, if any, of the actions one could take would be best.

    This latitude of judgment is not something new in the Church, not a development that has arisen only with the abortion issue. Take, for example, the question of slavery. It has been argued that the failure to endorse a legal ban on abortions is equivalent to refusing to support the cause of abolition before the Civil War. This analogy has been advanced by the bishops of my own state.

    But the truth of the matter is, few if any Catholic bishops spoke for abolition in the years before the Civil War. It wasn't, I believe, that the bishops endorsed the idea of some humans owning and exploiting other humans; Pope Gregory XVI, in 1840, had condemned the slave trade. Instead it was a practical political judgment that the bishops made. They weren't hypocrites; they were realists. At the time, Catholics were a small minority, mostly immigrants, despised by much of the population, often vilified and the object of sporadic violence. In the face of a public controversy that aroused tremendous passions and threatened to break the country apart, the bishops made a pragmatic decision. They believe their opinion would not change people's minds. Moreover they knew that there were southern Catholics, even some priests, who owned slaves. They concluded that under the circumstances, arguing for a constitutional amendment against slavery would do more harm than good, so they were silent. As they have been, generally, in recent years, on the question of birth control. And as the Church has been on even more controversial issues in the past, even ones that dealt with life and death.

    What is relevant to this discussion is that the bishops were making judgments about translating Catholic teachings into public policy, not about the moral validity of the teachings. In so doing they grappled with the unique political complexities of their time. The decision they made to remain silent on a constitutional amendment to abolish slavery or on the repeal of the Fugitive Slave Law wasn't a mark of their moral indifference; it was a measured attempt to balance moral truths against political realities. Their decision reflected their sense of complexity, not their diffidence. As history reveals, Lincoln behaved with similar discretion.

    The parallel I want to draw here is not between or among what we Catholics believe to be moral wrongs. It is in the Catholic response to those wrongs. Church teaching on slavery and abortion is clear. But in the application of those teachings – the exact way we translate them into action, the specific laws we propose, the exact legal sanctions we seek – there was and is no one, clear, absolute route that the Church says, as a matter of doctrine, we must follow.

    The bishops' pastoral, "The Challenge of Peace," speaks directly tot his point. "We recognize," the bishops wrote, "that the Church's teaching authority does not carry the same force when it deals with technical solutions involving particular means as it does when it speaks of principles or ends. People may agree in abhorring an injustice, for instance, yet sincerely disagree as to what practical approach will achieve justice. Religious groups are entitled as others to their opinion in such cases, but they should not claim that their opinions are the only ones that people of good will may hold."

    With regard to abortion, the American bishops have had to weigh Catholic moral teaching against the fact of a pluralistic country where our view is in the minority, acknowledging that what is ideally desirable isn't always feasible, that there can be different political approaches to abortion besides unyielding adherence to an absolute prohibition.

    This is in the American-Catholic tradition of political realism. In supporting or opposing specific legislation, the Church in this country has never retreated into a moral fundamentalism that will settle for nothing less than total acceptance of its views.

    Indeed, the bishops have already confronted the fact that an absolute ban on abortion doesn't have the support necessary to be placed in our Constitution. In 1981, they put aside earlier efforts to describe a law they could accept and get passed, and support the Hatch Amendment instead.

    Some Catholic felts the bishops had gone too far with that action, some not far enough. Such judgments were not a rejection of the bishops' teaching authority; the bishops even disagreed among themselves. Catholics were allowed to disagree on these technical political questions without having to confess.

    # # #

    Respectfully, and after careful consideration of the position and arguments of the bishops, I have concluded that the approach of a constitutional amendment is not the best way for us to seek to deal with abortion.

    I believe that legal interdicting of abortion by either the federal government or the individual states is not a plausible possibility and even if it could be obtained, it wouldn't work. Given present attitudes, it would be "Prohibition" revisited, legislating what couldn't be enforced and in the process creating a disrespect for law in general. And as much as I admire the bishops' hope that a constitutional amendment against abortion would be the basis for a full, new bill of rights for mothers and children, I disagree that this would be the result.

    I believe that, more likely, a constitutional prohibition would allow people to ignore the causes of many abortions instead of addressing them, much the way the death penalty is used to escape dealing more fundamentally and more rationally with the problem of violent crime.

    Other legal options that have been proposed are, in my view, equally ineffective. The Hatch Amendment, by returning the question of abortion to the states, would have given us a checkerboard of permissive and restrictive jurisdictions. In some cases, people might have been forced to go elsewhere to have abortions and that might have eased a few consciences but it wouldn't have done what the Church wants to do – it wouldn't have created a deep-seated respect for life. Abortions would have gone on, millions of them.

    Nor would a denial of Medicaid funding for abortion achieve our objectives. Given Roe v. Wade, it would be nothing more than an attempt to do indirectly what the law says cannot be done directly; worse, it would do it in a way that would burden only the already disadvantaged. Removing funding from the Medicaid program would not prevent the rich and middle classes from having abortions. It would not even assure that the disadvantaged wouldn't have them; it would only impose financial burdens on poor women who want abortions.

    Apart from that unevenness, there is a more basic question. Medicaid is designed to deal with health and medical needs. But the arguments for the cutoff of Medicaid abortion funds are not related to those needs. They are moral arguments. If we assume health and medical needs exist, our personal view of morality ought not to be considered a relevant basis for discrimination.

    We must keep in mind always that we are a nation of laws – when we like those laws, and when we don't.

    The Supreme Court has established a woman's constitutional right to abortion. The Congress has decided the federal government should not provide federal funding in the Medicaid program for abortion. That, of course, does not bind states in the allocation of their own state funds. Under the law, the individual states need not follow the federal lead, and in New York I believe we cannot follow that lead. The equal protection clause in New York's Constitution has been interpreted by the courts as a standard of fairness that would preclude us from denying only the poor – indirectly, by a cutoff of funds – the practical use of the constitutional right given by Roe v. Wade.

    In the end, even if after a long and divisive struggle we were able to remove all Medicaid funding for abortion and restore the law to what it was – if we could put most abortions out of our sight, return them to the backrooms where they were performed for so long – I don't believe our responsibility as Catholics would be any closer to being fulfilled than it is now, with abortion guaranteed by the law as a woman's right.

    The hard truth is that abortion isn't a failure of government. No agency or department of government forces women to have abortions, but abortion goes on. Catholics, the statistics show, support the right to abortion in equal proportion to the rest of the population. Despite the teaching in our homes and schools and pulpits, despite the sermons and pleadings and parents and priests and prelates, despite all the effort at defining our opposition to the sin of abortion, collectively we Catholics apparently believe – and perhaps act – little differently from those who don't share our commitment.

    Are we asking government to make criminal what we believe to be sinful because we ourselves can't stop committing the sin?

    The failure here is not Caesar's. This failure is our failure, the failure of the entire people of God.

    Nobody has expressed this better than a bishop in my own state, Joseph Sullivan, a man who works with the poor in New York City, is resolutely opposed to abortion and argued, with his fellow bishops, for a change of law. "The major problem the Church has is internal," the Bishop said last month in reference to abortion. "How do we teach? As much as I think we're responsible for advocating public policy issues, our primary responsibility is to teach our own people. We haven't done that. We're asking politicians to do what we haven't done effectively ourselves."

    I agree with the Bishop. I think our moral and social mission as Catholics must begin with the wisdom contained in the words "Physician, heal thyself." Unless we Catholics educate ourselves better to the values that define – and can ennoble – our lives, following those teachings better than we do now, unless we set an example that is clear and compelling, then we will never convince this society to change the civil laws to protect what we preach is precious human life.

    Better than any law or rule or threat of punishment would be the moving strength of our own good example, demonstrating our lack of hypocrisy, proving the beauty and worth of our instruction.

    We must work to find ways to avoid abortions without otherwise violating our faith. We should provide funds and opportunity for young women to bring their child to term, knowing both of them will be taken care of it that is necessary; we should teach our young men better than we do now their responsibilities in creating and caring for human life.

    It is this duty of the Church to teach through its practice of love that Pope John Paul II has proclaimed so magnificently to all peoples. "The Church," he wrote in Redemptor Hominis (1979), "which has no weapons at her disposal apart from those of the spirit, of the word and of love, cannot renounce her proclamation of ‘the word…in season and out of season.' For this reason she does not cease to implore…everybody in the name of God and in the name of man: Do not kill! Do not prepare destruction and extermination for each other! Think of your brothers and sisters who are suffering hunger and misery! Respect each one's dignity and freedom!"

    The weapons of the word and of love are already available to us; we need no statue to provide them.

    I am not implying that we should stand by and pretend indifference to whether a woman takes a pregnancy to its conclusion or aborts it. I believe we should in all cases try to teach a respect for life. And I believe with regard to abortion that, despite Roe v. Wade, we can, in practical ways. Here, in fact, it seems to me that all of us can agree.

    Without lessening their insistence on a woman's right to an abortion, the people who call themselves "pro-choice" can support the development of government programs that present an impoverished mother with the full range of support she needs to bear and raise her children, to have a real choice. Without dropping their campaign to ban abortion, those who gather under the banner of "pro-life" can join in developing and enacting a legislative bill of rights for mothers and children, as the bishops have already proposed.

    While we argue over abortion, the United States' infant mortality rate places us sixteenth among the nations of the world. Thousands of infants die each year because of inadequate medical care. Some are born with birth defects that, with proper treatment, could be prevented. Some are stunted in their physical and mental growth because of improper nutrition.

    If we want to prove our regard for life in the womb, for the helpless infant – if we care about women having real choices in their lives and not being driven to abortions by a sense of helplessness and despair about the future of their child – then there is work enough for all of us. Lifetimes of it.

    In New York, we have put in place a number of programs to begin this work, assisting women in giving birth to healthy babies. This year we doubled Medicaid funding to private-care physicians for prenatal and delivery services.

    The state already spends 20 million dollars a year for prenatal care in out-patient clinics and for in-patient hospital care.

    One program in particular we believe holds a great deal of promise. It's called "new avenues to dignity," and it seeks to provide a teenage mother with the special service she needs to continue with her education, to train for a job, to become capable of standing on her own, to provide for herself and the child she is bringing into the world.

    My dissent, then, from the contention that we can have effective and enforceable legal prohibitions on abortion is by no means an argument for religious quietism, for accepting the world's wrongs because that is our fate as "the poor banished children of Eve."

    # # #

    Let me make another point.

    Abortion has a unique significance, but not a preemptive significance.

    Apart from the question of the efficacy of using legal weapons to make people stop having abortions, we know our Christian responsibility doesn't end with any one law or amendment. That it doesn't end with abortion. Because it involves life and death, abortion will always be a central concern of Catholics. But so will nuclear weapons. And hunger and homelessness and joblessness, all the forces diminishing human life and threatening to destroy it. The "seamless garment" that Cardinal Bernardin has spoken of is a challenge to all Catholics in public office, conservatives as well as liberals.

    We cannot justify our aspiration to goodness simply on the basis of the vigor of our demand for an elusive and questionable civil law declaring what we already know, that abortion is wrong. Approval or rejection of legal restrictions on abortion should not be the exclusive litmus test of Catholic loyalty. We should understand that whether abortion is outlawed or not, our work has barely begun: the work of creating a society where the right to life doesn't end at the moment of birth; where an infant isn't helped into a world that doesn't care if it's fed properly, housed decently, educated adequately; where the blind or retarded child isn't condemned to exist rather than empowered to live.

    # # #

    The bishops stated this duty clearly in 1974, in their statement to the Senate Sub-Committee considering a proposed amendment to restrict abortions. They maintained such an amendment could not be seen as an end in itself. "We do not see a constitutional amendment as the final product of our commitment or of our legislative activity," they said. "It is instead the constitutional base on which to provide support and assistance to pregnant women and their unborn children. This would include nutritional, prenatal, child birth and postnatal care for the mother, and also nutritional and pediatric care for the child through the first year of life…We believe that all of these should be available as a matter of right to all pregnant women and their children."

    The bishops reaffirmed that view in 1976, in 1980, and again this year when the United States Catholic Committee asked Catholic to judge candidates on a wide range of issues – on abortion, yes; but also on food policy, the arms race, human rights, education, social justice and military expenditures.

    The bishops have been consistently "pro-life" in the full meaning of that term, and I respect them for that.

    # # #

    The problems created by the matter of abortion are complex and confounding. Nothing is clearer to me than my inadequacy to find compelling solutions to all of their moral, legal and social implications. I – and many others like me – are eager for enlightenment, eager to learn new and better ways to manifest respect for the deep reverence for life that is our religion and our instinct. I hope that this public attempt to describe the problems as I understand them, will give impetus to the dialogue in the Catholic community and beyond, a dialogue which could show me a better wisdom than I've been able to find so far.

    It would be tragic if we let that dialogue become a prolonged, divisive argument that destroys or impairs our ability to practice any part of the morality given us in the Sermon on the Mount, to touch, heal and affirm the human life that surrounds us.

    We Catholic citizens of the richest, most powerful nation that has ever existed are like the steward made responsible over a great household: from those to whom so much has been given, much shall be required. It is worth repeating that ours is not a faith that encourages its believers to stand apart from the world, seeking their salvation alone, separate from the salvation of those around them.

    We speak of ourselves as a body. We come together in worship as companions, in the ancient sense of that word, those who break bread together, and who are obliged by the commitment we share to help one another, everywhere, in all we do, and in the process, to help the whole human family. We see our mission to be "the completion of the work of creation."

    This is difficult work today. It presents us with many hard choices.

    The Catholic Church has come of age in America. The ghetto walls are gone, our religion no longer a badge of irredeemable foreignness. This new-found status is both an opportunity and a temptation. If we choose, we can give in to the temptation to become more and more assimilated into a larger, blander culture, abandoning the practice of the specific values that made us different, worshipping whatever gods the marketplace has to sell while we seek to rationalize our own laxity by urging the political system to legislative on others a morality we no longer practice ourselves.

    Or we can remember where we come from, the journey of two millennia, clinging to our personal faith, to its insistence on constancy and service and on hope. We can live and practice the morality Christ gave us, maintaining His truth in this world, struggling to embody His love, practicing it especially where that love is most needed, among the poor and the weak and the dispossessed. Not just by trying to make laws for others to live by, but by living the laws already written for us by God, in our hearts and in our minds.

    We can be fully Catholic; proudly, totally at ease with ourselves, a people in the world, transforming it, a light to this nation. Appealing to the best in our people, not the worst. Persuading not coercing. Leading people to truth by love. And still, all the while, respecting and enjoying our unique pluralistic democracy. And we can do it even as politicians.

Monday, 28 April 2008

Wednesday, 23 April 2008

  • Public Schools as Godless institutions

    I have posted below the memorials on Christian education and creation from the CREC website. This is the best and strongest statement I have seen on this subject.  There is clear evidence that state schools are godless and in my opinion, worse than this, they are anti-god. The public school system as it exists today allows for all opinions except for those that are aligned with a Christian worldview. The public school system is a location for children to be indoctrinated in a humanistic worldview. It has become a place were young girls are encouraged to be agressive and become leaders and where boys are taught to be impotent and discouraged from showing leadership qualities.

         I am also of the opinion that large Christian schools are often not the answer. Many of these institutions have become very similar in some ways to public schools. Some of these schools have not taken care to see who they are hiring in important administrative and teaching roles and have failed the children in their care.

          I believe scripture is clear that parents are responsible for the teaching of their children.  I would not say that this means home-schooling is the only option but that it is the best option for most families. l understand that in some situations, i.e. single parents, that this may prove to be a challenge, however, I believe that the church family needs to rise to the occasion and help to meet these special situations. Scripture does not afford to us the slothful option of sending our children to public schools. I have heard the many excuses that people have for sending their children to public schools and in every case they have been to the pursuit of worldly ends. We do not need two incomes for a bigger home or nicer cars, our children are much more valuable than that. We must take seriously the biblical commands to teach our children and raise them in the fear and admonition of the word of God. In our circles we have rejected the idea that the church should be teaching our children scripture how much more should we reject the idea that they should receive their worldview from our humanistic government schools.

        My son Maxwell has been witnessing to his friend across the street. He is an institutional school attender. He recently told Maxwell that he did not like to call black people black because he thought it was racist. Maxwell tried to explain, without using offensive words, that there are things that white people calle black people that are offensive but black is not one of them. This young man also discussed Gentleman's clubs with Maxwell. We had to explain that this definition was an oxymoron. We described what these clubs were and explained that no gentleman would ever frequents such a place. We also talked to Maxwell's friend and explained that this was not an acceptable subject matter to discuss. Homeschooling has taught our children that they can trust their parents more than they can trust other children. Public schools undermine the authority of the parents and teach children to trust their friends and teachers more than their parents.

              I have said a great deal but the bottom line comes back to our responsibility as parents before God. We do not have a right to turn our children over to this government to teach them given the clear agenda they have. I do not see it as an accident that the CREC has put the education and creation memorials together. The refusal of public schools to allow any teaching on creationism or intelligent design shows that they have an agenda. Despite the increasing evidence against evolution they continue to insist that it is the only 'scientific' explanation for the existence of all things. Responsible Christian parents cannot allow the government access to their children to teach them these lies and if they do the church must take every possible step to convince them of the evils of the public school system. The public school system is now the enemy of the church and I believe this includes the State Universities particularly in the study of Philosophy and other similar disciplines. 

      While studying philosophy at the University of Central Florida a professor began a discussion about the diminished value of persons with disabilities. I was outraged. I let the conversation go on for a while and then raised my hand and explained that my wife was disabled and that because she was created in the image of God she did not have any diminished value in his sight or mine. I also explained that in many ways her disability has given us many opportunities to love and care for people that we would not have had otherwise. I also challenged them with the idea that one of their own heroes, Stephen Hawking, is profoundly disabled. They claimed him as some sort of exception though they still said his value was  somewhat diminished by his physical condition. Another challenge was why are you so invested in this idea that persons with diminished physical or mental ability are worth less than others. I also asked them to explain why they were allowed to make such judgments. There were no answers to these questions. I now understand that the philosophy they were espousing speaks directly to the issues of abortion and euthanasia. In order to legitamize their positions on these subjects they must conclude that some people are of less value than others. This may not be overtly taught in our public school system but the humanistic philosophy is set in place so that the foundation may be built on when public school children attend State colleges and Universities.

         Christian parents guard your children well. They are gifts from Almighty God and with these gifts comes responsibility. Let us teach our children well the things of God and the truths of his creation.

      

     

     

     Memorial on Christian Education

    All things are to be considered and conducted under the Lordship of Jesus Christ,including education, and especially the education of our covenant children. God hasneither charged nor authorized the state to educate children within its civil jurisdiction.

    God has commanded parents to bring up their children in the education and

    admonition of the Lord (Eph. 6:4, Deut. 6:7). Given the importance and enormity ofthe task (Ps. 127:3-5, Deut. 6:7-9), and the impossibility of neutrality in education

    (Prov. 1:7, Matt. 12:30, Luke 6:40, Col. 2:1-10, 2 Cor. 10:3-5), we do heartily affirm the necessity of educating our children in a manner that is explicitly Christian incontent and rigor.

    Government schools are, by decree and design, explicitly godless, and therefore

    cannot be considered a legitimate means of inculcating true faith, holy living and a decidedly Christian worldview in the children of Christian parents.

    Parents who do not fully understand the indispensability of Christian education should be warmly received into membership. However, the leaders of Christ’s church must thoroughly understand and plainly teach the divine imperative to disciple our children,the divine prohibition of rendering unto Caesar those who bear God’s image (Matt.22:20-21), the divine warning to those who cause their little ones to stumble (Matt.18:6) and the divine promises to those who raise their children in faith (Deut. 7:9,Ps.102:5-7, Ps. 103:17-18, Prov. 22:6, Luke 1:48-50, Acts 2:39).

    F. Memorial on Creation

    The doctrine of creation lies at the heart of Christian living, deeply embedded within our assumptions about worship, knowledge, faith, celebration, beauty, and

    redemption. In recent decades, many conservative evangelicals have been moved by the science of the day to oppose the historic view of creation in six sequential days ofcommon length, several millennia in the past. Instead, they hold that the bare ideas of creation presented in Genesis have little to do with the actualities of creation. Falsely pitting poetry and symbolism against history, they distort the text of Scripture and divorce ideas from the created order in ancient Gnostic fashion. Science changes like the wind, and therefore its authority ought to pale beside the Spirit-led, traditional exegesis of creation in six days of common length. Intimidation by apparently more sophisticated non-Christian knowledge-priesthoods is not new. Over the centuries, God has regularly tested the Church’s courage to stand loyal to His revelation over against the ever-changing sciences of the day, those “profane and idle babblings and contradictions of what is falsely called knowledge.”

Saturday, 01 December 2007

  • Tea & Newcastle

    Hi all, this was a fun paper I got to write last year on N.T. Wright and J.I. Packer and their views of scripture. I hope you have fun reading it, it was nice to write something both creative and theological. It is reasonably long.  By way of clarification Dr. Swain was the Professor for this class.

     The following is a conversation between two esteemed Anglican theologians, Bishop N.T. Wright and J.I. Packer. The discussion is one of the authority of scripture, the role of scripture in redemptive history, inerrancy and inspiration of scripture. (Particularly in regard to the book each has written on these issues, Wright: The Last Word and Packer: God Has Spoken).  Up and coming theologian, Dr. Scott R. Swain was the moderator and the discussion took place at First Baptist Church Oviedo.  There were students and faculty from RTS present as well as members of First Baptist Church. 

     

    Wright: Good evening Jim. I am excited about our discussion this evening. I believe this may be a first of what I hope will be many discussions within our community on these issues. I am particularly pleased because I believe it will be a discussion, like the ones I call for in my book. That is, congenial discussions of a more pleasant nature than our American friends are used to.

    Packer: Thank you Tom. And let me say that I believe your book is a whirlwind tour account of scripture channeling God’s authority, with its tweaking of distortions back into shape and its first class approach to Bible study, is masterly throughout.

    Wright: Thank you Jim and thank you for that endorsement which I know you don’t give very often. (Stifled laughter in audience).

    Swain: Thank you for being with us this evening Gentlemen. We have brought each of you tea as we begin what we are sure will be a civilized discussion. We are eager to see one take place, for as you have pointed out Bishop we are often quite rude in our discussion of theological matters. Let us begin with a discussion of the authority of scripture and what exactly that term means.

    Packer: Tom, this does bring up an important question. What exactly do you mean when you say that the term ‘authority of scripture is shorthand for “God’s authority exercised through scripture?”

    Wright: I am merely saying that scripture itself is not the full extent of God’s authority. The culmination of God’s word is not scripture but Christ, the word in the flesh. I just don’t believe the word authority communicates well to our society what we are saying about the bible when we use that particular term. Our society would see this idea of authority more as a set of rules to be used against them and that is not what we desire to communicate about the scriptures is it?

    Packer: Indeed it is not! And if all we are doing is clarifying definitions then I concur. However using an analogy from your book I believe that you have asked us throw out the old wardrobe, this being traditional doctrine, rather than unpacking it and allowing it to freshen up by air and a hot iron. It seems in saying that the term authority of scripture can only have Christian meaning in a delegated or mediated sense that you may be saying more than or less than what Christians have meant by this phrase and in so doing this is a trashing of the suitcase and all and the purchase of a new wardrobe. However, I am not prepared to scrap tradition so easily.

    Wright: Nor am I brother. I am actually saying quite the opposite. We must all be careful that we do not read scripture as though we or our tradition fully have it in the right. We should in most cases defer to tradition when there is consensus but we must do so while proving the traditional doctrine through scripture. This is what those who have come before us would require of us. We must not assume that we read scripture just as it was intended with no pre-suppositions. If evangelicals were to view their own reading of scripture as critically as they do others it would go a long way toward solving this problem. I am merely saying that the language of some of our traditional doctrines may need updating and that they must stand the test of scripture. We must not dismiss our predecessors but we also must take care to examine their views humbly yet critically.

    Packer: Well then I think we have agreement overall on this matter with some differences in how we might communicate the meaning of the authority of scripture. I would agree that we must view our tradition with a critical eye but we may have some disagreement on how much tweaking of traditional doctrine needs to be done. I think we must be very careful when tinkering with long held views of the church but we must not make a new Pope of scholars or church Fathers either.

    Wright: Agreed. We also must understand that the scriptures inform us in our day of the future of redemptive history. As you have aptly pointed out in your book Jim we must look to the promises of God in scripture so that we are reminded of what he has already done and what he promises is coming in the future. This is one reason why we must continue, both in the church and private devotion to follow the example of The Prayer Book and Confessions and look to the promises throughout scripture both those made to Israel and those made to the church of the New Testament.

    Packer: You really did read my book Tom! Well said.

    Wright: I know that I cannot fully deal with it here but in my book I give the five act play with Gen 1-2 as the first act and our current age as the fifth act. The story of Jesus is the climax of the story of Israel and the focal point of the creator’s redemptive drama.

    Packer: A helpful analogy indeed.

    (Dr. Frame at this point threw a piece of paper at Dr. Swain who appeared to nod off).

    Swain: Well gentlemen let’s move on to the next portion of our discussion. Would you please honor us with a discussion on your views of the role of scripture in redemptive history?  As we do this we will replace your tea with a pint of Newcastle. It seems we need to liven up the debate a bit. (At this point some of the Baptist’s also appear to rouse from a short nap and head for the exit having heard something about pints of Newcastle).

     

    Packer: Well thank you Dr. Swain we shall be glad to embark on that discussion. We run the risk of rehashing bits of what we have already discussed but I believe it will be fruitful. I believe that the bible is a book of history written about human history and from which we learn God’s message to his people through understanding what the original writers of scripture meant when they wrote these books. This may sound as though I am talking again about authority and I am but I am also talking about understanding scripture correctly so that we might understand God’s redemptive historical plan.

    Wright: Right.

    Packer: We must understand the originally intended meaning of Biblical statements or we will misunderstand them and misunderstand God’s redemptive historical plan. This was the point of the reformers when the insisted on a literal reading of the Bible. They intended that we should know the original context and read literally within the confines of that context whether it be story or poetry etcetera. Would you agree Tom?

    Wright: Yes. I agree insofar as you have gone. I would say with regard to redemptive history we must look at events throughout scripture and look toward the ultimate goal which is not only the salvation of men but the redemption of all of creation.

    Packer: Yes.

     Wright: Scripture was always the place for Israel to look to understand who God is and how He was moving forward to fulfill his Kingdom purposes. Scripture was meant to incite the people of God to praise in recalling his faithful deeds and encouraging them through reminding them of God’s faithfulness past, present and future.

    Packer: So, would you agree that revelation is a cumulative activity, which is culminated in Christ?

    Wright: I agree. We see in Galatians 4:4 that God sent his Son at a specific point in history and we must understand him and his mission in the context of his place in history.

    Packer: Well then my question for you is did Jesus understand his mission and who he was? It seems that in other places you bring this into question and this would seem to put the entire mission in jeopardy.

    Wright: I am not sure that is a completely accurate synopsis of what I have said but let me clarify. I believe that Jesus did not understand himself to be God incarnate in the same way that he understood himself to be male or to be hungry.

    Packer: How does one explain his claims in the “I am” sayings and the great offense taken by the Jews if not as a claim of deity? And if as a claim of deity does this not mean that he understood fully who he was.

    Wright: I am not sure where you are going but yes I have said these things with regard to Jesus’ awareness of who he was while in the flesh. I do not accept the “I am” sayings of Jesus as a self aware claim to deity and the Jews already had several reasons to be offended by him such as his violations of the Sabbath. Jesus accomplished all that was given to him to accomplish whether he fully understood his mission and position in the trinity or not. He was a Jew, raised a Jew and understanding Jewish tradition would have had a Messianic understanding that did not need to include deity. However, that is not to concede even that he understood himself to be the Messiah.

    Packer: Well on this point I must disagree wholeheartedly. The “I am” sayings in the Gospel of John are definitive claims to deity and I believe if one studies them thoroughly this will inform much of how he thinks of Jesus. Here we get back to what it is as you said earlier I am trying to get at. If Jesus did not understand his own divinity then his apostles certainly could not have until much later but Jesus had throughout his ministry expected them to accept his words with authority if Jesus did not even understand his divine authority? We see evidence of this in John 3:14, 34. I know you rely more on the other Gospels for your position but this can also be seen in Mt. 7:21-27 and Luke 6:46-49 & 8:4-21.

    Wright to Swain: How about a refill on this pint. Well now you have gone and made this a good new fashioned American discussion Jim. We were being so nice and you had to start a fight. Seriously, I did not say that Jesus’ words are not divine words. His words still carry the divine authority that you are speaking of whether his disciples understood it or not and whether we in this day understand it or not. Like the Old Testament was to Israel and still is to us today the New Testament also is authoritative regardless of whether we accepts its’ authority and this certainly includes the sayings of Jesus. However, I would again say that we must understand them within their context such as parables and so forth.

    Swain: Well Gentlemen it appears we could discuss this for quite a while but it is time to move on to the portion of our discussion covering inerrancy. We should

    Packer: Tom, would you like to have a go at it first.

    Wright: Well as one of our many esteemed audience members, Dr. John Frame has mentioned, I actually have very little to say on inerrancy in this book so I will to defer to you to start Jim.

    Packer: Well Tom don’t forget, I said good things about your book. I also said some things about inerrancy in my own book. I believe as I think you would agree Tom, that there has been much misunderstanding about the term inerrancy in evangelical circles.  Inerrancy speaks to being free from error of any sort, factual, spiritual or moral.

    Wright: Agreed to this point.

    Packer: With regard to the terminology I have no great insistence that we use this specific term so long as we agree to the things it is trying to say. You would probably prefer different terms Tom.

    Wright: I would. They would need to mean the same things or very nearly the same things but the terms could use updating. You know a little unpacking, airing out and a hot iron.

    Packer: You see Tom that’s the kind of thing that can get you in trouble. I’m sure these young men would love to hear you simply affirm the traditional doctrine of inerrancy, whether or not you might use different terms.

    Wright: I am comfortable with what I have said to this point and believe it is well within the bounds of orthodoxy. It would take to much time to go into detail, but maybe in a future book I’ll say more.

    Packer: I hope you will so that we can put some of these concerns to rest. Many people express concerns that you have a muted view of inerrancy and I would like you to answer those questions so that you may answer those concerns.

    Swain: Gentlemen we are coming near to the end of our time here but we need to conclude with a short discussion on the inerrancy of scripture.

    Packer: Tom, this is another area where I think you are getting into some trouble. You discuss inspiration in your book but the definition is not complete. You have a very brief definition early in your book and then at the end you say that 2 Tim 3:16-17 “was given not to give people the right belief about scripture but to encourage them to study it for themselves.”

    Wright: That is what I said and I believe it to be true.  I think this text is given so that God’s people will read the scriptures and learn about Him and his mission. 

    Packer: If it is not claiming to be the very word of God what is the encouragement to read it over any other book with God as the subject. This passage calls us to view scripture as the very word of God, as God Himself preaching to us and informing us about Him and His mission.  Will you affirm the scripture as ‘God breathed’?

    Wright: I have not and do not deny the position of the Anglican Church with regard to my view of the inspiration of scripture.

    Packer: I hope you will have more to say in that forthcoming book on both inspiration and inerrancy.

    Wright: God willing, such a book may be in my future.

    Swain: Thank you Dr. Packer and Bishop Wright. We have quite enjoyed a very informative and civil discussion of these issues. We look forward to the many books which both of you shall surely write in the future.

    Wright: Thank you Dr. Swain. We also look forward to your future writings which I am sure will impact the church in a great way.

    Packer: Yes Dr. Swain, feel free to send me a copy of what you are writing. I may even give you one of my rare endorsements.

    Swain: Goodnight all. You are all invited back to RTS where we have transformed the Great Hall into an English pub and will be serving fish and chips.

     

  • Heather set up my site for winter.  She put on all cute themes but decided on this one.  I think the snowman looks like one of those that comes alive at night and murders the whole town.  Cool huh?

     

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